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Family of William Henry GROVES and Elizabeth FORSHAW

Husband: William Henry GROVES (c. 1855- )
Wife: Elizabeth FORSHAW (c. 1858- )
Children: Walter R GROVES (c. 1881- )
James GROVES (c. 1883- )
Emma GROVES (c. 1883- )
Agnes GROVES (c. 1886- )
Elizabeth GROVES (c. 1888- )
Lucy GROVES (1890-1965)
Alice GROVES (c. 1895- )
William GROVES (c. 1898- )
Lily GROVES (c. 1900- )
Marriage Q3 1878 Preston, Lancashire, England1,2
at St Luke's Preston

Husband: William Henry GROVES

Name: William Henry GROVES3,4
Sex: Male
Father: John GROVES (c. 1833-1901)
Mother: Sophia WRIGHT (c. 1833- )
Birth c. 1855 Brentford, Middlesex, England
Occupation Gas Stoker, Labourer, Brickyard worker
Census 7 Apr 1861 (age 6) Shoreditch, London, England5
27 Smiths Buildings, Shoreditch Tower Hamlets
Census 2 Apr 1871 (age 16) Norwood, Middlesex, England6
Hayes, Norwood
Occupation 2 Apr 1871 (age 16) Labourer; Norwood, Middlesex, England6
Census 3 Apr 1881 (age 26) Norwood, Middlesex, England7
Western Road
Occupation 3 Apr 1881 (age 26) Brickfield labourer; Norwood, Middlesex, England7
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 37) North Hyde, Middlesex, England8
7 Tildesleys Low Cots, Western Road, Norwoods
Note added to the Groves entry in the enumerators Book. " Should have followed schedule Number 190 but accidentally omitted - tenement (part of house) schedule 193). It would have been next door to his parents.
Occupation 5 Apr 1891 (age 37) Gas stoker; North Hyde, Middlesex, England8
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 46) Norwood, Middlesex, England9
Tiddesley Cott, Western Road, Norwood
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 (age 46) General Labourer; Norwood, Middlesex, England9

Wife: Elizabeth FORSHAW

Name: Elizabeth FORSHAW3,4
Sex: Female
Father: -
Mother: -
Birth c. 1858 Preston, Lancashire, England
Census 3 Apr 1881 (age 22) Norwood, Middlesex, England7
Western Road
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 38) North Hyde, Middlesex, England8
7 Tildesleys Low Cots, Western Road, Norwoods
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 43) Norwood, Middlesex, England9
Tiddesley Cott, Western Road, Norwood

Child 1: Walter R GROVES

Name: Walter R GROVES3,4
Sex: Male
Birth c. 1881 Norwood, Middlesex, England
Census 3 Apr 1881 (age 2 mns) Norwood, Middlesex, England7
Western Road
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 10) Southall, Middlesex, England10
5, Bell's Charity, Norwood
Walter is with his grandparents.
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 20) Norwood, Middlesex, England9
Tiddesley Cott, Western Road, Norwood
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 (age 20) Labourer; Norwood, Middlesex, England9

Child 2: James GROVES

Name: James GROVES3,4
Sex: Male
Birth c. 1883 Norwood, Middlesex, England
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 8) North Hyde, Middlesex, England8
7 Tildesleys Low Cots, Western Road, Norwoods
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 18) Norwood, Middlesex, England9
Tiddesley Cott, Western Road, Norwood
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 (age 18) Carter; Norwood, Middlesex, England9

Child 3: Emma GROVES

Name: Emma GROVES3,4
Sex: Female
Birth c. 1883 Southall, Middlesex, England
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 8) Norwood, Middlesex, England9
Tiddesley Cott, Western Road, Norwood

Child 4: Agnes GROVES

Name: Agnes GROVES3,4
Sex: Female
Birth c. 1886 Norwood, Middlesex, England
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 5) North Hyde, Middlesex, England8
7 Tildesleys Low Cots, Western Road, Norwoods

Child 5: Elizabeth GROVES

Name: Elizabeth GROVES3,4
Sex: Female
Birth c. 1888 Norwood, Middlesex, England
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 3) North Hyde, Middlesex, England8
7 Tildesleys Low Cots, Western Road, Norwoods

Child 6: Lucy GROVES

Name: Lucy GROVES4
Sex: Female
Spouse: William HEARD (1885-1950)
Birth 26 Apr 1890 Southall, Middlesex, England11,12
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 11 mns) North Hyde, Middlesex, England8
7 Tildesleys Low Cots, Western Road, Norwoods
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 11) Norwood, Middlesex, England13
Bells Charity Cottage Western road
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 20) Norwood, Middlesex, England14
11 Albert Road, Southall
Death 1965 (age 74-75) Southall - Ealing Registration District, London, England12,15

Child 7: Alice GROVES

Name: Alice GROVES3,4
Sex: Female
Birth c. 1895 Southall, Middlesex, England
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 6) Norwood, Middlesex, England9
Tiddesley Cott, Western Road, Norwood

Child 8: William GROVES

Name: William GROVES3,4
Sex: Male
Birth c. 1898 Southall, Middlesex, England
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 3) Norwood, Middlesex, England9
Tiddesley Cott, Western Road, Norwood

Child 9: Lily GROVES

Name: Lily GROVES3,4
Sex: Female
Birth c. 1900 Southall, Middlesex, England
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 1) Norwood, Middlesex, England9
Tiddesley Cott, Western Road, Norwood

Note on Husband: William Henry GROVES

In 1881 William, Elizabeth and Walter are Western Road, Norwood. In 1891 the family is living in "a tenement" in Western Road, Norwood, almost ommitted by the enumerator according to a note. In 1901 Lucy is with her grandmother, next door to the rest of the family. Her name looks like it's Sophia Groves, a retired dressmaker, and her widowed sister Ella or Eliza Sanford is living with them. Grand mother is 68, sister is 64. Both born in New Brentford, Middx. Ancestry.com has wrongly transcribed the family as Grones. Unusually the 1901 census was more helpful.

In 1911William and Elizabeth are with son Henry and daughter Lily, at 1 Tildesley Low Cottages, Southall, Middlesex.

Sources

1"GRO". Brentford 3a 60. Cit. Date: Q1 1880.
2"Marriage Certificate".
3"File (merged): C:\Program Files\FamilyTree\Families\groves.ged". Record originated in...
4"Nick Heard". www.heardfamilyhistory.org.uk. This GEDCOM is predominantly the work of Nick Heard, but it incorporates the collaborated work of many other family historians. You are welcome to use the information herein but please acknowledge the source. Every effort has been made to ensure the data is accurate, but any use you make of it is entirely at your own risk. (c) Nick Heard 2009
5"Census 1861 Shoreditch,London Shoreditch St Leonard ED 11 RG9/230 Folio 75 Page 37 (John Groves)".
Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place
John Groves Head Mar 28 Porter to a Leather Seller Heston, Middlesex
Sophia Groves Wife Mar 30 New Brentford, Middlesex
Lucy Unknown MotLaw Wid 69 Brentford, Middlesex
William H Groves Son Unm 6 Scholar Brentford, Middlesex
John Groves Son Unm 4 Scholar Brentford, Middlesex
Sarah Groves Dau Unm 1 Brentford, Middlesex
Shoreditch St Leonard ED 11 RG9/230 Folio 75 Page 37. Cit. Date: 7 April 1861. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
6"Census 1871 Norwood, London Uxbridge, Hayes, Norwood ED 10 RG10/1311 Folio 94 Page 40 (John Groves)".
Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place
John Groves Head Mar 38 Labourer Heston, Middlesex
Sophia Groves Wife Mar 39 New Brentford, Middlesex
William H Groves Son Unm 16 Labourer Brentford, Middlesex
John Groves Son Unm 13 Labourer Brentford, Middlesex
Robert J. Groves Son Unm 8 Scholar Norwood, London
Thomas R Groves Son Unm 4 Scholar Norwood, London
Uxbridge, Hayes, Norwood ED 10 RG10/1311 Folio 94 Page 40. Cit. Date: 2 April 1871. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
7"Census 1881 Norwood, London Norwood ED 9 RG11/1336 Folio 19 Page 32 (William Groves)".
Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place
William H Groves Head Mar 26 Brickfield labourer Brentford, Middlesex
Elizabeth Mary Groves Wife Mar 22 Preston, Lancashire
Walter R Groves Son Unm 2 mths Southall, Middlesex
Norwood ED 9 RG11/1336 Folio 19 Page 32. Cit. Date: 3 April 1881. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
8"Census 1891 North Hyde, Middlesex Norwood ED10 RG12/1022 Folio 54 Page 49 (William Groves)".
Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place
William H Groves Head M 37 Gas stoker Brentford, Middlesex
Elizabeth Mary Groves Wife M 38 Preston, Lancashire
James Groves Son S 8 Scholar Norwood, London
Agnes Groves Dau S 5 Scholar Norwood, London
Elizabeth Groves Dau S 3 Norwood, London
Lucy Groves Dau S 11 mths Southall, Middlesex
Norwood ED10 RG12/1022 Folio 54 Page 49. Cit. Date: 5 April 1891. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
9"Census 1901 Norwood, London Norwood ED 11 RG13/1182 Folio 5 Page 1 (William Groves)".
Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place
William H Groves Head M 46 General Labourer Brentford, Middlesex
Elizabeth Mary Groves Wife M 43 Preston, Lancashire
Walter R Groves Son S 20 Labourer Southall, Middlesex
James Groves Son S 18 Carter Norwood, London
Emma Groves Dau S 8 Scholar Southall, Middlesex
Alice Groves Dau S 6 Scholar Southall, Middlesex
William Groves Son S 3 Southall, Middlesex
Lily Groves Dau S 1 Southall, Middlesex
Norwood ED 11 RG13/1182 Folio 5 Page 1. Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
10"Census 1891 Southall, Middlesex ED 10 RG12/1022 Folio 46 Page 33 (John Groves)".
Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place
John Groves Head M 59 Brickmaker Heston, Middlesex
Sophia Groves Wife M 60 New Brentford, Middlesex
George Groves Son S 20 Fireman Railway Engine Norwood, London
Walter R Groves Grandson 10 Scholar Southall, Middlesex
ED 10 RG12/1022 Folio 46 Page 33. Cit. Date: 5 April 1891. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
11"GRO". Uxbridge 3a page 41. Cit. Date: "Apr -Jun Q 1890".
12"File (merged): C:\Program Files\FamilyTree\Families\groves.ged".
13"Census 1901 Norwood, London Norwood ED 11 RG13/1182 Folio 5 Page 1 (Sophia Groves nee Wright)".
Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place
Sophia Wright Head W 68 Retired Dressmaker New Brentford, Middlesex
Eliza Wright Sis W 64 Retired Dressmaker New Brentford, Middlesex
Lucy Groves Granddaur S 11 Scholar Southall, Middlesex
Norwood ED 11 RG13/1182 Folio 5 Page 1. Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
14"Census 1911 Norwood, London, England RG14/6797 RG78/339 RD127 SD3 ED15 SN230 (William Heard)".
Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place
William Heard Head Mar 25 Joiner Crediton , Devon, England
Lucy Heard Wife Mar 20 Southall, Middlesex, England
Ethel May Heard Dau Unm 7 mths Southall, Middlesex, England
RG14/6797 RG78/339 RD127 SD3 ED15 SN230. Cit. Date: 2 April 1911. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
15"GRO". Ealing 5b 142. Cit. Date: "Dec Q 1965".