See also

Family of Herbert Joseph GILES and Dorothy Mabel COLLINGWOOD

Husband: Herbert Joseph GILES (1881-1966)
Wife: Dorothy Mabel COLLINGWOOD (1893-1982)
Children: Dorothy Louise GILES (1917-2001)
Mary Patricia GILES (1919-2022)
Ann Collingwood GILES (1931-2017)
Marriage Q4 1916 Plympton, Plymouth, Devon, England

Husband: Herbert Joseph GILES

Name: Herbert Joseph GILES1
Sex: Male
Father: Herbert Joseph Pitts GILES (1843-1932)
Mother: Mary DAWE (1854-1910)
Birth 10 Dec 1881 Yealmpton, Devon, England
Baptism 6 Jan 1882 (age 0) Yealmpton, Devon, England
Dunstone, Yealmpton
Census 5 Apr 1891 (age 9) Wembury, Devon, England2
Downthomas Farm
Occupation 12 Jul 1909 (age 27) 2nd Mate; Merchant marine
SS Clan Leslie
Arrived at Sydney from Lyttelton, New Zealand, the ship from Glasgow originally.
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 29) Saltash, Cornwall, England3
HMS Defiance, RN Torpedo School, hamoaze, off Saltash
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 29) Lieutenant, R.N.R; Saltash, Cornwall, England3
Promoted (Military) 31 Dec 1925 (age 44)
RNVR Commander
Occupation 24 Sep 1938 (age 56) ship's captain4
Death 11 Feb 1966 (age 84) Solihull, Warwickshire, England
Probate 6 May 1966 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
634 Streetsbrook Road, Solihull, Warwickshire
Effects valued at £8514, probate granted to Barclays Bank Ltd.

Wife: Dorothy Mabel COLLINGWOOD

Name: Dorothy Mabel COLLINGWOOD1
Sex: Female
Father: William Henry COLLINGWOOD (1863-1936)
Mother: Elizabeth Parsons SLEE (c. 1865-1906)
Birth 1893 Plymouth, Devon, England
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 8) Plymouth, Devon, England5
6 Moorland Terrace
Census 29 Sep 1939 (age 45-46) Bebington, Wirral, Cheshire, England6
20 Thornton Avenue
Occupation 29 Sep 1939 (age 45-46) Unpaid domestic duties; Bebington, Wirral, Cheshire, England6
Death 22 Feb 1982 (age 88-89) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
57 Quarry Lane, Northfield
Probate 26 Mar 1982 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
57 Quarry lane, Northfield, Birmingham
Effects valued at not exceeding £25000

Child 1: Dorothy Louise GILES

Name: Dorothy Louise GILES1
Sex: Female
Birth 16 Sep 1917 Plympton St Mary, Devon, England
Residence 24 Sep 1938 (age 21) Higher Bebington, Cheshire, England4
Wembury, Thornton Avenue
Departure 1 Mar 1939 (age 21) Lagos, West Coast of Africa; Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thornton Avenue, Belington, Cheshire
on the MV Adda.
Death 31 May 2001 (age 83) Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England

Child 2: Mary Patricia GILES

Name: Mary Patricia GILES1
Sex: Female
Spouse: Thomas Oswald Neville FOGG (1915-2004)
Birth 1919 Plympton, Plymouth, Devon, England
Death 2022 (age 102-103)

Child 3: Ann Collingwood GILES

Name: Ann Collingwood GILES1
Sex: Female
Birth 1931 Wirral, Cheshire, England
Death 2017 (age 85-86) Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

Note on Wife: Dorothy Mabel COLLINGWOOD

Following the death of her mother - Elizabeth Parsons Collingwood nee Slee - the family were split up as their father could not cope alone with bringing up a young family.

 

Dorothy was sent to live with her father's brother (Richard Collingwood) and his family. Sadly she was never allowed to see her siblings again although apparently she did meet her brother. Leonard, much later in her life when she was married. Although nobody seems to know why, it seems the meetings did not go well and they never saw each other again.

 

Dorothy always maintained that her sister, Evelyn, had died soon after her birth although this was clearly not the case. Maybe this is what she was told when she was sent away. Sadly, as a result, they never met and Dorothy's early life remained a mystery that was never discussed.

 

It also would seem that after she had gone to live with her Uncle she also never saw her father again - maybe because the Collingwood's considered him a bit of a 'black sheep'. It seems ironic that she was left £1 in her father's will!

Sources

1www.heardfamilyhistory.org.uk. This GEDCOM is predominantly the work of Nick Heard, but it incorporates the collaborated work of many other family historians. You are welcome to use the information herein but please acknowledge the source. Every effort has been made to ensure the data is accurate, but any use you make of it is entirely at your own risk. (c) Nick Heard 2009
2Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place
Herbert Joseph Pitts Giles Head M 47 Farmer Holbeton, Devon
Mary Giles Wife M 36 Newton Ferrers, Devon
Herbert Giles Son S 9 Scholar Yealmpton, Devon,
Thomas Hunt Giles Son S 7 Scholar Wembury, Devon,
Caroline M. Giles Dau S 6 Scholar Wembury, Devon,
Lucy Beatrice Giles Dau S 4 Scholar Wembury, Devon,
Robert Pitts Giles Son S 2 Wembury, Devon,
Edgar Giles Son S 1 Wembury, Devon,
ED 8 RG12/1720 Folio 74 Page 9. Cit. Date: 5 April 1891. Assessment: Secondary evidence.
3Text From Source: Name,Relation,Sex,Age,Married,Years,Chd Born,Chd Living,Chd Died,Occupation,Industry,Employ Status,At Home,Where Born,Nationality,Infirmity
Herbert Joseph Giles,R.N.R,M,29,S,,,,,Lieutenant, R.N.R,,,,Paiges, Wembury, Devon, England,,
4Text From Source: 1938, Marriage solemnized at Parish Church of St Barnabas in the Parish of Bromborough in the County of Chester
Marriage Ref: Cheshire West and Chester Council; Cheshire, England; Parish Registers; Reference: P 59/7798/5
When Married: 24 Sep 1938
Name and Surname: Donald Lidstone Scott and Dorothy Louise Giles
Age: 22 and 21
Condition: Bachelor and Spinster
Rank or Profession: Chemist and -
Residence at the time of Marriage: Pooks Hill, Spital Road, Bebington and Wembury, Thornton Avenue, Higher Bebington
Fathers' Names and Surnames: Maurice Lidstone Scott and Herbert Joseph Giles
Rank or Professions of Father: engineer and ship's captain
Married in the church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, After Banns by me, W.S.Allan Price, Rector.
This Marriage was solemnized between us, Donald Lidstone Scott and Dorothy Louise Giles
in the Presence of us, Herbert Joseph Giles, J. Lidstone Scott
5Text From Source: Name,Relation,Condition,Sex,Age,Occupation,Employ Status,At Home,Where Born,Infirmity
John Bray Slee,Head,M,M,65,Police Pensioner,,,Holsworthy, Devon, England,
Mary A Slee,Wife,M,F,70,,,,Warbstow, Cornwall, England,
Elizabeth Parsons Collingwood,Daughter,M,F,36,,,,Ashburton, Devon, England,
Dorothy Mabel Collingwood,Granddaughter,S,F,8,,,,Plymouth, Devon, England,
Leonard Slee Collingwood,Grandson,S,M,3,,,,Plymouth, Devon, England,
6Text From Source: Name of person,Status,Gender,Birthdate,Condition,Occupation,Comments
Dorothy Giles,,F,8 Feb 1894,M,Unpaid domestic duties,