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| Husband: | John GROVES (c. 1833-1901) | |
| Wife: | Sophia WRIGHT (c. 1833- ) | |
| Children: | William Henry GROVES (c. 1855-1926) | |
| John GROVES (1858- ) | ||
| Sarah GROVES (1860- ) | ||
| Robert J. GROVES (1863- ) | ||
| Thomas R GROVES (1867- ) | ||
| George GROVES (1871- ) | ||
| Marriage | Q3 1851 | Brentford, Middlesex, England |
| Name: | John GROVES1,2,3 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Father: | William GROVES (c. 1795- ) | |
| Mother: | Sarah FLETCHER (c. 1798- ) | |
| Birth | c. 1833 | Heston, Middlesex, England |
| Occupation | General Labourer | |
| Census | 6 Jun 1841 (age 8) | Heston, Middlesex, England4 |
| Southall side of Heston | ||
| Census | 30 Mar 1851 (age 21) | New Brentford, Middlesex, England5 |
| New Brentford In 1851 John is living in the house of his wife-to-be and her widowed mother - no indication of status, but they were to marry later that year. A James Denyer of Brentford is also there. |
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| Occupation | 30 Mar 1851 (age 21) | labourer; New Brentford, Middlesex, England5 |
| Census | 7 Apr 1861 (age 28) | Shoreditch, London, England6 |
| 27 Smiths Buildings, Shoreditch Tower Hamlets | ||
| Occupation | 7 Apr 1861 (age 28) | Porter to a Leather Seller; Shoreditch, London, England6 |
| Census | 2 Apr 1871 (age 38) | Norwood, Surrey, England7 |
| Hayes, Norwood | ||
| Occupation | 2 Apr 1871 (age 38) | labourer; Norwood, Surrey, England7 |
| Occupation | 4 Aug 1878 (age 44-45) | labourer8 |
| Census | 3 Apr 1881 (age 49) | Norwood, Surrey, England9 |
| 5 Crown Field, Western Road | ||
| Occupation | 3 Apr 1881 (age 49) | General Labourer; Norwood, Surrey, England9 |
| Census | 5 Apr 1891 (age 59) | Southall, Middlesex, England10 |
| 5, Bell's Charity, Norwood | ||
| Occupation | 5 Apr 1891 (age 59) | brickmaker; Southall, Middlesex, England10 |
| Death | Q1 1901 (age 67-68) | Uxbridge, Middlesex, England11 |
| Name: | Sophia WRIGHT1,2 | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Father: | George WRIGHT (1790-bef1861) | |
| Mother: | Lucy LAND (1792- ) | |
| Birth | c. 1833 | New Brentford, Middlesex, England |
| Occupation | Dressmaker | |
| Census | 6 Jun 1841 (age 11) | New Brentford, Middlesex, England12 |
| Boar's Head Yard, New Brentford | ||
| Census | 30 Mar 1851 (age 20) | New Brentford, Middlesex, England5 |
| New Brentford Sophia is living with her mother and her husband to be. |
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| Occupation | 30 Mar 1851 (age 20) | Dressmaker; New Brentford, Middlesex, England5 |
| Census | 7 Apr 1861 (age 30) | Shoreditch, London, England6 |
| 27 Smiths Buildings, Shoreditch Tower Hamlets | ||
| Census | 2 Apr 1871 (age 39) | Norwood, Surrey, England7 |
| Hayes, Norwood | ||
| Census | 3 Apr 1881 (age 50) | Norwood, Surrey, England9 |
| 5 Crown Field, Western Road | ||
| Census | 5 Apr 1891 (age 60) | Southall, Middlesex, England10 |
| 5, Bell's Charity, Norwood | ||
| Census | 31 Mar 1901 (age 68) | Norwood, Surrey, England13 |
| Bells Charity Cottage Western road Sophia is living with her widowed sister and her granddaughter, next door to son William. |
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| Occupation | 31 Mar 1901 (age 68) | Retired Dressmaker; Norwood, Surrey, England13 |
| Name: | William Henry GROVES1,2 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Spouse: | Elizabeth FORSHAW (c. 1858-1944) | |
| Birth | c. 1855 | Brentford, Middlesex, England |
| Occupation | Gas Stoker, Labourer, Brickyard worker | |
| Census | 7 Apr 1861 (age 6) | Shoreditch, London, England6 |
| 27 Smiths Buildings, Shoreditch Tower Hamlets | ||
| Census | 2 Apr 1871 (age 16) | Norwood, Surrey, England7 |
| Hayes, Norwood | ||
| Occupation | 2 Apr 1871 (age 16) | labourer; Norwood, Surrey, England7 |
| Residence | 4 Aug 1878 (age 22-23) | Preston, Lancashire, England8 |
| Byron Street, Ribbleton Lane | ||
| Occupation | 4 Aug 1878 (age 22-23) | labourer; Preston, Lancashire, England8 |
| Census | 3 Apr 1881 (age 26) | Norwood, Surrey, England14 |
| Western Road | ||
| Occupation | 3 Apr 1881 (age 26) | Brickfield labourer; Norwood, Surrey, England14 |
| Census | 5 Apr 1891 (age 37) | North Hyde, Middlesex, England15 |
| 7 Tildesleys Low Cots, Western Road, Norwoods Note added to the Groves entry in the enumerators Book. " Should have followed schedule Number 190 but accidentally omitted - tenement (part of house) schedule 193). It would have been next door to his parents. |
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| Occupation | 5 Apr 1891 (age 37) | Gas stoker; North Hyde, Middlesex, England15 |
| Census | 31 Mar 1901 (age 46) | Norwood, Surrey, England16 |
| Tiddesley Cott, Western Road, Norwood | ||
| Occupation | 31 Mar 1901 (age 46) | General Labourer; Norwood, Surrey, England16 |
| Occupation | 10 Oct 1908 (age 52-53) | labourer17 |
| Census | 2 Apr 1911 (age 56) | Norwood, Middlesex, England18 |
| 1 Tyldesley Low Cottages, Southall | ||
| Occupation | 2 Apr 1911 (age 55-56) | Labourer; Norwood, Middlesex, England18 |
| Industry or Service with which worker is connected: Painting | ||
| Census | 19 Jun 1921 (age 66 yrs 5 mns) | Norwood, Middlesex, England19 |
| 1 Tyldesley Low Cottages, Southall | ||
| Occupation | 19 Jun 1921 (age 65-66) | Farm labourer; Norwood, Middlesex, England19 |
| Employment: Out of Work Place of Work: No fixed place |
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| Occupation | 3 Dec 1921 (age 65-66) | Labourer20 |
| Death | Q2 1926 (age 70-71) | Southall, Norwood, Middlesex, England |
| Burial | 11 May 1926 | Norwood, Surrey, England |
| Havelock Norwood Cemetery Noo 600 Cross Sec. His son James and his wife were buried with him. |
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| Name: | John GROVES1,2 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Birth | 1858 | Brentford, Middlesex, England |
| Census | 7 Apr 1861 (age 4) | Shoreditch, London, England6 |
| 27 Smiths Buildings, Shoreditch Tower Hamlets | ||
| Census | 2 Apr 1871 (age 13) | Norwood, Surrey, England7 |
| Hayes, Norwood | ||
| Occupation | 2 Apr 1871 (age 13) | labourer; Norwood, Surrey, England7 |
| Name: | Sarah GROVES2 | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Birth | 1860 | Brentford, Middlesex, England |
| Census | 7 Apr 1861 (age 1) | Shoreditch, London, England6 |
| 27 Smiths Buildings, Shoreditch Tower Hamlets | ||
| Name: | Robert J. GROVES1,2 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Birth | 1863 | Norwood, Surrey, England |
| Census | 2 Apr 1871 (age 8) | Norwood, Surrey, England7 |
| Hayes, Norwood | ||
| Census | 3 Apr 1881 (age 18) | Norwood, Surrey, England9 |
| 5 Crown Field, Western Road | ||
| Occupation | 3 Apr 1881 (age 18) | General Labourer (out of employ); Norwood, Surrey, England9 |
| Name: | Thomas R GROVES1,2 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Birth | 1867 | Norwood, Surrey, England |
| Occupation | General Labourer | |
| Census | 2 Apr 1871 (age 4) | Norwood, Surrey, England7 |
| Hayes, Norwood | ||
| Census | 3 Apr 1881 (age 14) | Norwood, Surrey, England9 |
| 5 Crown Field, Western Road | ||
| Occupation | 3 Apr 1881 (age 14) | Labourer Coal ??; Norwood, Surrey, England9 |
| Name: | George GROVES1,2 | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Birth | 1871 | Norwood, Surrey, England |
| Occupation | Railway Fireman | |
| Census | 3 Apr 1881 (age 9) | Norwood, Surrey, England9 |
| 5 Crown Field, Western Road | ||
| Census | 5 Apr 1891 (age 20) | Southall, Middlesex, England10 |
| 5, Bell's Charity, Norwood | ||
| Occupation | 5 Apr 1891 (age 20) | Fireman Railway Engine; Southall, Middlesex, England10 |
In 1861 John and Sophia are in the same household, with her mother.
| 1 | Record originated in... |
| 2 | www.heardfamilyhistory.org.uk. This GEDCOM is predominantly the work of Nick Heard, but it incorporates the collaborated work of many other family historians. You are welcome to use the information herein but please acknowledge the source. Every effort has been made to ensure the data is accurate, but any use you make of it is entirely at your own risk. (c) Nick Heard 2009 |
| 3 | Marriage Certificate. Certificate of William henry Groves and Elizabeth Forshaw. |
| 4 | Text From Source: Name Age Occupation Where Born William Groves 45 Farmer Sarah Groves 48 William Groves 15 Scholar Christopher Groves 13 Scholar John Groves 8 Scholar James Groves 4 Scholar |
| Heston ED 14 HO107/658 Book 2 Folio 31 Page 20. Cit. Date: 6 June 1841. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 5 | Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place Lucy Unknown Head Mar 59 Receiving Alms Brentford, Middlesex Sophia Wright Dau Unm 20 Dress Maker New Brentford, Middlesex John Groves Lodger? 21 Labourer Heston, Middlesex |
| Brentford ED1b HO107/1699 Folio 39 Page 26. Cit. Date: 30 March 1851. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 6 | Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place John Groves Head Mar 28 Porter to a Leather Seller Heston, Middlesex Sophia Groves Wife Mar 30 New Brentford, Middlesex Lucy Unknown MotLaw Wid 69 Brentford, Middlesex William H Groves Son Unm 6 Scholar Brentford, Middlesex John Groves Son Unm 4 Scholar Brentford, Middlesex Sarah Groves Dau Unm 1 Brentford, Middlesex |
| Shoreditch St Leonard ED 11 RG9/230 Folio 75 Page 37. Cit. Date: 7 April 1861. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 7 | Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place John Groves Head Mar 38 Labourer Heston, Middlesex Sophia Groves Wife Mar 39 New Brentford, Middlesex William H Groves Son Unm 16 Labourer Brentford, Middlesex John Groves Son Unm 13 Labourer Brentford, Middlesex Robert J. Groves Son Unm 8 Scholar Norwood, London Thomas R Groves Son Unm 4 Scholar Norwood, London |
| Uxbridge, Hayes, Norwood ED 10 RG10/1311 Folio 94 Page 40. Cit. Date: 2 April 1871. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 8 | Text From Source: 1878, Marriage solemnized at St Luke's Parish Church in the Parish of Preston in the County of Lancashire Marriage No: Lancashire, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936. Parish registers. Marriage, Preston St. Luke's 1870-1879 When Married: 4 Aug 1878 Name and Surname: William Henry Groves and Elizabeth Forshaw Age: 23 and 21 Condition: Bachelor and Spinster Rank or Profession: labourer and - Residence at the time of Marriage: Byron Street, Ribbleton Lane, Preston and Fletcher's Road, Preston Fathers' Names and Surnames: John Groves and James Forshaw (Deceased) Rank or Profession of Fathers: labourer and Labourer Married in the church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, After Banns by me, Isaac Price, Vicar. This Marriage was solemnized between us, William Henry Groves and Elizabeth Forshaw in the Presence of us, Richard Townsnd, his mark, Jane Townsend |
| 9 | Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place John Groves Head Mar 49 General Labourer Heston, Middlesex Sophia Groves Wife Mar 50 New Brentford, Middlesex Robert J. Groves Son Unm 18 General Labourer (out of employ) Norwood, London Thomas R Groves Son Unm 14 Labourer Coal ?? Norwood, London George Groves Son Unm 9 Scholar Norwood, London |
| ED 9 RG11/1336 Folio 20 Page 34. Cit. Date: 3 April 1881. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 10 | Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place John Groves Head M 59 Brickmaker Heston, Middlesex Sophia Groves Wife M 60 New Brentford, Middlesex George Groves Son S 20 Fireman Railway Engine Norwood, London Walter R Groves Grandson 10 Scholar Southall, Middlesex |
| ED 10 RG12/1022 Folio 46 Page 33. Cit. Date: 5 April 1891. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 11 | Free BMD Marriage. Uxbridge 3a 35. Cit. Date: Q1 1901. |
| 12 | Text From Source: Name Age Occupation Where Born George Wright 51 Sexton Middlesex Lucy Wright 48 Middlesex James Wright 22 Middlesex Sophia Wright 11 Scholar Middlesex Eliza Wright 8 Scholar Middlesex |
| ED 2 HO107/655 Book 1 Folio 35 Page 25. Cit. Date: 6 June 1841. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 13 | Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place Sophia Wright Head W 68 Retired Dressmaker New Brentford, Middlesex Eliza Wright Sis W 64 Retired Dressmaker New Brentford, Middlesex Lucy Groves Granddaur S 11 Scholar Southall, Middlesex |
| Norwood ED 11 RG13/1182 Folio 5 Page 1. Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 14 | Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place William H Groves Head Mar 26 Brickfield labourer Brentford, Middlesex Elizabeth Mary Groves Wife Mar 22 Preston, Lancashire Walter R Groves Son Unm 2 mths Southall, Middlesex |
| Norwood ED 9 RG11/1336 Folio 19 Page 32. Cit. Date: 3 April 1881. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 15 | Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place William H Groves Head M 37 Gas stoker Brentford, Middlesex Elizabeth Mary Groves Wife M 38 Preston, Lancashire James Groves Son S 8 Scholar Norwood, London Agnes Groves Dau S 5 Scholar Norwood, London Elizabeth Groves Dau S 3 Norwood, London Lucy Groves Dau S 11 mths Southall, Middlesex |
| Norwood ED10 RG12/1022 Folio 54 Page 49. Cit. Date: 5 April 1891. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 16 | Text From Source: Name Related Cond Age Occupation Birth Place William H Groves Head M 46 General Labourer Brentford, Middlesex Elizabeth Mary Groves Wife M 43 Preston, Lancashire Walter R Groves Son S 20 Labourer Southall, Middlesex James Groves Son S 18 Carter Norwood, London Emma Groves Dau S 8 Scholar Southall, Middlesex Alice Groves Dau S 6 Scholar Southall, Middlesex William Groves Son S 3 Southall, Middlesex Lily Groves Dau S 1 Southall, Middlesex |
| Norwood ED 11 RG13/1182 Folio 5 Page 1. Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. Assessment: Secondary evidence. |
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| 17 | Text From Source: 1908, Marriage solemnized at St George's Parish Church in the Parish of Southall in the County of Middlesex Marriage No: London, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938, Ealing, St George's, Southall, Lancaster Road, 1922-1932 When Married: 10 Oct 1908 Name and Surname: Walter R Groves and Harriet Elizabeth Moses Age: 28 and 25 Condition: Bachelor and Spinster Rank or Profession: labourer and - Residence at the time of Marriage: 9 Newell's Cottages, Hayes Bridge, Southall and 9 Newell's Cottages, Hayes Bridge, Southall Fathers' Names and Surnames: William Henry Groves and Henry Moses Rank or Profession of Fathers: labourer and labourer Married in the church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, After Banns by me, George Gilbert Vicar. This Marriage was solemnized between us, Walter R Groves and Harriet Elizabeth Moses in the Presence of us, Joseph Moses, Agnes Eliza Groves |
| 18 | Text From Source: Census England 1911 Address: 1 Tyldesley Low Cottages, Southall Place: Norwood, Middlesex, England Name,Relation,Sex,Age,Married,Years,Chd Born,Chd Living,Chd Died,Occupation,Industry,Employ Status,At Home,Where Born,Nationality,Infirmity William Henry Groves,Head,M,56,M,,,,,Labourer,Painting,,,Brentford, Middlesex, England,, Elizabeth Groves,Wife,F,53,M,34,10,8,2,,,,,Preston, Lancashire, England,, William Henry Groves,Son,M,13,S,,,,,scholar,,,,St John's, Southall, Middlesex, England,, Lily Groves,Daughter,F,11,S,,,,,scholar,,,,St John's, Southall, Middlesex, England,, |
| 19 | Text From Source: Census England 1921 Address: 1 Tyldesley Low Cottages, Southall Place: Norwood, Middlesex, England Name,Relation,Age,Sex,Marr/Orph'd,Birthplace,Nationality,Education,Occupation,Employment,Place of Work,Chd <16,Children's Ages William Henry Groves,Head,66y 5m,M,Married,Brentford, Middlesex, England,,,Farm labourer,Out of Work,No fixed place,0, Elizabeth Groves,Wife,63y 0m,F,Married,Preston, Lancashire, England,,,Home duties,,,, |
| 20 | Text From Source: 1921, Marriage solemnized at St John's Parish Church in the Parish of Southall in the County of Middlesex Marriage No: London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 Ealing, St John Southall, Church Avenue, 1912-1928 When Married: 3 Dec 1921 Name and Surname: Frederick William Nicholls and Lily Groves Age: 29 and 22 Condition: Bachelor and Spinster Rank or Profession: Groom and - Residence at the time of Marriage: Highfield House, Kilworth Road, Husbands Bosworth and 8 Albert Road, Southall Fathers' Names and Surnames: Frederick William Nicholls and William Henry Groves Rank or Profession of Fathers: Groom and Labourer Married in the church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, By Licence by me, Frank Roberts, Vicar. This Marriage was solemnized between us, Frederick William Nicholls and Lily Groves in the Presence of us, E.A.Bowler, E. Groves |